All right, so the Bible does not say that Mary committed a sin. But renowned Protestant Greek grammarian Bill Mounce says Jesus reference to Nicodemus as the teacher of Israel is actually a sarcastic rebuke. Well the thing is, in both cases in the Septuagint and in Lukes gospel, theyre both in the perfect passive of participle, so theyre being used the same way. So lets apply these standards to the remaining dogmas. So the protestant reformers like Luther and Zwingly, did they believe Mary was a perpetual Virgin and were they committed to Sola scriptura? Alright what about the Immaculate Conception? In order to justify that claim, Christie would have to present a standard that tells us what writings prior to Christ are inspired and why we should accept that particular standard. Drive in with The Morning Ritual weekday mornings on KNST AM790Supervisor Steve Christie explains why he endorses Abe Hamadeh, Kari Lake and others and also talks about Pima County spending . So ultimately, weve seen this and I think whats important to remember all of this, that these dogmas do not take the place of Christ. And so it would fulfill the promise in Philippians 3:21 that says, Our bodies, lowly bodies, will be transformed like his heavenly body, Christ. By: Rochester Business Journal Staff By Scott Pitoniak May 19, 2017. Okay. The Protoevangelium of James does talk about Mary being very mature for her age, walking at an early age, for example, and being precocious. Yes. Also, Christie claims, as do many Protestants, that Jesus and the apostles endorsed only the Protestant canon because they never explicitly cite the deuterocanonical books of Scripture. This is hard, isnt it? Why is there disagreement between relatives, older stepbrothers, cousins, et cetera? Rather, this is Mary simply being obedient to the law just as Jesus submitted himself to baptism for the sake of all righteousness. "Bills and Eagles Turn Mountains Into Molehill; Buffalo Erases 35-Point Deficit", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_Christie&oldid=1134968114, College of William & Mary Sports Hall of Fame, This page was last edited on 21 January 2023, at 20:11. It is not considered inspired. All right. But there are many problems with this speculative argument. In Isaiah 7:16 it talks about a time before a child knows how to refuse the evil and choose the good. Im running out of time. Since this dogma allows for her to have died before being taken up to heaven, it contradicts the purpose of a biblical assumption. They also allude to events and stories contained in these texts. The Buffalo Bills officially signed Christie to a one-day contract, thus to retire as a Buffalo Bill. But maybe are there other verses that have talked about that Mary gave birth to other children and so she would not be a perpetual Virgin? They wanted people following scripture even if they were wrong. So Im well aware of that. She would have to have a heavenly body. He mentioned about the Septuagint. 2022 Defenders Media All Rights Reserved, Apologetics315 is a ministry of Defenders Media, 501(c)(3) a non-profit organization. If Mary was conceived sinless and kept the law perfectly, then Christ could not be her savior. By providing an accessible and growing repository of teaching materials, as well as providing a means of networking within the apologetics community, ourvisionis to be a significant educational resource for churches, campus groups, and Christians around the world. So since Jacob is referred to as the son of Isaac, and Reuben as the son of Jacob, then were they only children? Posts about Steve Jobs written by Christian Apologist. Are you talking about 19 probably later, after the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, I know not Oh, the ones that have not known a man? So wed only asked does the bible teach that Mary had sexual relations. As far as adelphos, I dont have a problem with the word adelphos, but my question is, why would you abandon its primary meaning for another meaning when it doesnt demand it? Sure. Scripture reveals Mary was a Virgin, but conflicts with her being a perpetual Virgin. Influenced early on by early monasticism, asceticism, and even gnostic-like texts, early Roman Catholics were troubled by how a created sinful fallen creature went on to have other children and could give birth to the sinless Son of God in the flesh. So when were speaking of the adelphos, the brethren of the Lord, its used in some sort of non-standard way. The purpose of this debate, as Trent had brought up, is about the Marian Dogmas. Apologetics for the Masses #365 - 4 Words That Changed the World, Part II. Thank you very much, Trent. 13K views, 25 likes, 6 loves, 7 comments, 12 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Lake Effect Furniture and Mattress: Have you seen the latest commercial yet? and so this may not satisfy Trents answer and he might smirk a little bit about that, but Id say probably the first theologian to agree with me is the Apostle Paul. Trent, you have 10 minutes to cross examine Steve, whenever you begin. And hes not. Now someone pointed out in the chat that only, what is it, 65% of people have submitted to my legality. Okay. Steve's showmanship is upbeat and romantic but there's a lot more. Even if Mary were speaking of salvation from sin, she may be speaking about God, preventing her from sinning and saving her in that way, like we might say how a doctor saved someone from a disease by vaccinating them, rather than by giving them a pill to cure them after the infection. Get your complimentary mortgage payment estimate* Apply Now. Thats all it is. He scored 100 or more points in eight of . The earliest codex we have is the tenth-century-A.D. Aleppo codex, and it places the book of Chronicles at the beginning of the Writings (or ketuvim) and not as the last book of the Hebrew bible. Dear catholic.com visitors: This website from Catholic Answers, with all its many resources, is the worlds largest source of explanations for Catholic beliefs and practices. It has all the free resources including the Study Guide to his first book, all his Bible studies, and his contact info: http://vernisage.us/stevechristie/ Steve Christie has also appeared on the Third Man Podcast: Steve Christie has written several books: WHY PROTESTANT BIBLES ARE SMALLER: A Defense of the So theyre different contexts to examine, but thats not what were debating, whether scripture teaches it. [W]e do not know the extent of his canon. As Christians, we should not believe things that contradict the Word of God. So again, argument by exception. We should only offer that to the father and the holy sacrifice of the mass. In fact, the authors of these texts, such as Sirach, described writing down Gods wisdom to indicate they were writing Scripture, which wouldnt make sense if they thought the canon was closed. Or Enoch and Elijah who never died because they were assumed alive into heaven. Im throwing you a bone here. Some of these questions are for both of you but it might be better if I ask a question, just one of you respond since we have so many. Thats why theyre diverging traditions on whether Mary died or not, but you dont find the first denial of Marys assumption until in the late early middle ages. Just want to offer an encouragement for those who are watching in the live chat or who watch this later. Something went wrong with your request. But in the infancy narrative, were just talking about the birth of the firstborn in accord with The Mosaic Law. No. All right. So thats also a bad argument. Trent, in your recent podcast rebutting Ray Comfort, you said Jesus is the only person referred to as the son of Mary. Abraham believed God, and it was credited or imputed to him as righteousness so that he might be the father of all who believed that righteousness might be credited or imputed to them.. If I could just. Type it in. And yeah, I would just encourage others, Ive always said this, I dont see debates as a way to end an issue. It says here that Jesus is the firstborn, prototokos, of Mary. He was a five-year teammate of quarterback Jim Kelly, who has been in remission from sinus cancer since August. I do remember in that debate with James White five years ago, saying, Our theology should come from the Bible, not the Bible from our theology. And I was not arguing for Sola Scriptura. I mean, aside from the dogmas, I think one of the ones that make me cringe is that Catholics worship Mary, where every time I hear that, Im like And I brought it up, but I explained I came about it through a different way. In fact, the Bible often speaks about things like human sinfulness or human mortality as a universal truth and those things really are universal, but it doesnt always mention the exceptions that do occur to these universal rules. We welcome all people, Christian, atheist, agnostics, and other worldly religions to our show. I want to comment on his use of the word veneration. With the Bills, he would become one of the game's top kickers. On March 5, 2008 Christie retired from professional football. Sure. How do we know that theyre brothers? Do you still have it? And I would also address that Luke actually specifically states that it is a salutation. So I would definitely encourage people who are willing to explore the churchs teachings about Mary more. 0. A person could be a Protestant, because we have to understand what a Protestant is and we have to go back to the Reformation for it. After Marys days of purification were completed in Luke two, she made burnt and sin offerings, which according to Leviticus 12 was required of mothers to make atonement or to cover their sins, which Mary would not need to do if she were immaculately conceived. It refers to a natural sister as well or a biological [inaudible 01:15:42]. Look, weve got 737 people watching and only 492 likes. Now, does the Bible teach that everyone has sinned? So feel free to answer that briefly. Before the 2001 regular season, Christie was placed on IR from an offseason groin injury having accuracy problems during the preseason being replaced by Jake Arians prior to the start of the season. Does the Bible teach that no human being has ever been assumed into heaven? It is a matter of which authority are you willing to submit to. Steve, where can people learn more about you and the good stuff youve done? Trent had mentioned about Elijah and Enoch being assumed to heaven. First Corinthians 15, in my opening statement, it says that there are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies and people who have earthly bodies are sown perishable, meaning corruptible in dishonor, meaning contempt, reproach. I have also appeared several Apologist, any of the Christian writers, primarily in the 2nd century, who attempted to provide a defense of Christianity and criticisms of paganism and other aspects of Greco-Roman culture. The Pharisees had unique teaching authority in Israel, and the Pharisees canon was essentially the same as the Protestant Old Testament canon. Of course, but how do we know that Andrew is also the son of Jonah? And he told the Thessalonians who that was, but we dont know who that was, and [inaudible 01:06:25] biblical scholars have had many different answers and we dont know much the same this particular truth about whether Mary died or not. The only son? This means Mary was earthy like Adam, before she was heavenly once Jesus redeemed and delivered her. After completing several real estate transactions, Stephen discovered that the agents' work ethics . We use Christian Apologetics to discuss, interview, & debate for God's existence, & Christianity. Please join our community. Therefore Mary would not need to be assumed to heaven to keep her from seeing death if she were conceived sinless. . And you, just so people are aware, arent being mean or anything by doing that. I cant go into that in detail here in the answer, but I might talk about it in a future podcast episode. I mean, I have to really think about that. Isaiah 49:26 describes God as savior and Redeemer echoed in Galatians 4:4-5. When Jesus mother and brothers approach him later in verse 31, Jesus contrasts his biological brothers who dishonored him with his disciples, who were his spiritual brothers, who did the will of God. So in the Septuagint, Genesis 19:9, Lots daughters use the same Greek word, I know not man. So were they engaged in a vow of perpetual virginity? Its a way to begin exploration of it. So theres nothing in scripture that contradicts that. . When Matthew 1:25 writes, Joseph kept Mary a virgin until she gave birth to a son, the specific Greek words [foreign language 00:02:06] when translated until, is used consistently in the New Testament to refer to a change in condition. When Mary declared God, my savior. In Luke 1:47, she understood that Jesus was the savior to grant repentance and forgiveness of sins, in Acts 5:31 and in Titus 2:9-11, which included her own. What is Mary talking about in Luke One? The fact that this is used of Mary is very unusual. Because you could say, Well, Solomon is the son of David, but David had many other children besides Solomon. Jackson Memorial Hospital. Okay. Youve got 10 minutes to cross-examine Trent. We believe all Christian's should be able to defend their faith in God & Jesus of Nazareth. While the Greek word adelphos, translated brothers, can have numerous meetings in scripture, the specific Greek word adelphi, translated sisters, only has two. Lets debate the Apocrypha! Hebrews 11:5 states, By faith Enoch was taken up so that he would not see death. And he was not found because God took him up. Search. A19: Interview with Apologetics.com: The Minimal Facts Argument. Thank you. Finally, the point about Mary dying, I think Steve was really missing this here. Prototokos, I dont have a problem with the term, meaning first out of the womb, but in Luke chapter two versus 22 to 23, this is a different event. Luke 2:7, Steve said, Well, look. Can you give one example in the New Testament where it describes God or Jesus being a preemptive savior instead of a redemptive redeeming savior? That sums it up. In Luke 1:28, the angel uses it as a descriptor of Mary within a personal address, similar to how John the Baptist used the lamb of God to speak about Jesus, and that talks about the significance there. But Steve cant construct a Protestant canon out of what Jesus and the apostles cited because, as Protestant scholar Bruce Metzger observes, Nowhere in the New Testament is there a direct quotation from the canonical books of Joshua, Judges, Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther, Ecclesiastes, the Song of Solomon, Obadiah, Zephaniah, and Nahum; and the New Testament allusions to them are few in number (The Cambridge History of the Bible, 148). Now the doctrine of original sin is true, but the Bible does not explicitly say that it applies to every single individual without exception. An interview of Gary Habermas with Steve Forkin of No Apologies; Video Link . And then she was placed to be serving within the temple. Some people might even accuse you of idolatry. Yeah. It is not mentioned in any book of the Bible, protocanonical or deuterocanonical, nor in any ancient nonbiblical witnesses such as Josephus or Philo. If you guys could try to keep your answers to about two minutes each. Now Steve said that Matthew 1:25, and others have said this, based off the doctoral work of Eric [Svenson 00:26:02], that the Greek construction [foreign language 00:26:06] in this verse always demands a reversal of condition. Geoffrey Stephen "Steve" Christie (born November 13, 1967) is a former Canadian American football placekicker in the National Football League, who, as a member Steve Christie - Top podcast episodes Yeah. So thats another one. Many Protestant scholars say Wis-dom 2 either contains a messianic prophecy or Matthew used this passage as a template when he described Jesus crucifixion. Maybe a little too much. And also Greek scholars do not rule that out. Thats why Protestant scholars since the nineteenth century have taken the position Herbet Ryle did in saying the legend about the Great Synagogue was wholly untrustworthy., Christie also cites Geoghan and Homess book The Bible for Dummies in favor of the Great Synagogue, but on page 11 the authors make no mention of the Great Synagogue or of Ezras canon being identical to todays Protestant Old Testament. In Luke 3:1 its used to describe Herod Antipas and Herod Philip who had the same father, but they were born of different mothers, just as Jesus and his brethren were born of different mothers. But that doesnt mean that we cant show veneration and respect towards the things that God has made and those people who have cooperated with God in salvation history. And I think that in general, those arguments arent very strong, but in some cases, saying that something is fitting can point us in that direction. What am I to do with this? Theres more to it than that. They would be sons from another marriage. In 2004, Christie was signed by the Jacksonville Jaguars to put some pressure on struggling rookie Josh Scobee. Steve Christie joins me this week to discuss how he got started in apologetics and why it is important. Its like, because-. Being sinful is saying that you have inherited original sin and becoming sin means that sin was imputed to you. So Im going to cover four of them. Because the details about whether she died or not have not been given to us in the deposit of faith, that particular fact has not been given to us. In fact, when it is used in the Septuagint to talk about people who have different fathers or mothers, it is only ever used to describe people in the case of half siblings, of having different fathers, not different mothers . They also didnt believe the Gospels or other New Testament documents were inspired, so they dont have a great track record when it comes telling us what is and isnt Scripture. Well, a lot to cover here. 16. Okay. And so I would say if youre a Protestant, for Protestants and Catholics, if the Marian dogmas can occupy at least that place. This is known as [inaudible 01:09:50]. You have seven-, All right. And for Protestants, thats the same as well, because the doctrines of the canon of Scripture, or even Sola Scriptura itself are not found explicitly in Scripture. So the fact is, does the Bible teach that Mary was not assumed into heaven? Geoffrey Stephen "Steve" Christie (born November 13, 1967) is a former Canadian American football placekicker in the National Football League, who, as a member Steve Christie - Nangungunang mga yugto ng podcast This is an example called eisegesis of Scripture. So if Andrew is Jonahs son, too, because Andrew is the brother of Peter, then why cant James, the brother of Jesus, also be the son of Mary? For example, Jesus said among those born of women none was greater than John the Baptist (Luke 7:28)and John was not a Pharisee. He says, Jesus words would have sounded exactly the same if the narrative of Zechariahs death had occurred in the book of Kings or in the Psalms. So you can use the app for three months before deciding whether its worth your time and money. And Ill leave it at that. Because thats what the Catholic Answers encyclopedia states. Steve said that if Mary and Joseph had remained virgins, they would violate late St. Pauls teaching about marriage in First Corinthians Seven. Lets see, in Catholic Answers encyclopedia, it says that Andrew, the brother of Peter, is also called the son of Jonah. Please click that. Lets see. Dr. Tony Costa and Steve Christie, The Issue of Canon and Sola Scriptura - The Council, Presuppositional Apologetics Round Up: Third week of August 2021 | The Domain for Truth, Response to Sam Shamoun's post Purgatory debate recap of Dr. Michael Brown against William Albrecht - The Council, Responding to Gary Michuta's Abel to Zechariah Counter-Arguments with Steve Christie & Paul - The Council, The Marian Dogmas Contradict Scripture, Trent Horn Vs. Steve Christie - The Council, Necessitarianism: Conceive of the Possibilities. In the declaration on the specific dogma, the immaculate conception of Mary, theres absolutely nothing in the dogma itself that says anything that this part is infallible. Alright? Wouldnt they have noticed that their child up to the age of 12 or 13, however, she was, that she had not committed a single sin? I bet maybe you would kneel before it in prayer, you would weep to see that through this means our salvation was procured. What plunged mankind into the fall was Adams sin, which resulted in Adam and by extension all of mankind, including Mary, physically dying. In the 2000 season, Christie was an instrumental part of the Bills' eight victories. Steve Hays (1959-2020) We just learned that Steve Hays has passed away in a hospice. And if you look into church history, these dogmas were not all agreed upon. Yeah. It is forbidden to any man to change this, to oppose and counter it. James White: Steve Ray is a Dolt, Dunce, Imbecile, Idiot, and Ignoramus *** [] What is clear is that Ray has not seriously interacted with anything other than this kind of "Jack Chick/Dave Hunt . Kelly said, for the great majority of the early Church Fathers, the deuterocanonical writings ranked as Scripture in the fullest sense (Early Christian Doctrines, 55). So just a historical note for everybody watching. The apostle Paul affirms this in 1 Corinthians 15:22, In Adam all die. Meaning all of mankind spiritually, including Mary, which Paul clarifies in verses 47 to 49. So this next question is for you, Steve. . As Trent Horn shared with Matt Fradd on Sips with Aquinas Ooh. So the Immaculate Conception does not contradict scripture then. All right. Thanks for being a supporter mate. Dr. Steven Christie, MD is a Diagnostic Radiology Specialist in Miami, FL and has over 28 years of experience in the medical field. Gordon Clark - Christian philosopher, apologist, and theologian. Let no one dwell in their tents. This is later applied in Acts 120, but not to a group of people, to an individual, namely Judas. You can also speak of adoptive children using biological language. Oh, youre on mute. And in the Reformation, the two doctrines that came out of it was Sola Scriptura and Sola Fide. On July 2, 2007, Christie joined the Toronto Argonauts of the Canadian Football League by signing a practice roster agreement with the team. But it doesnt say anything about him being bodily assumed or anything. We see this in Psalm 69:25. . Can a conclusion be infallible if the underlying logic is false? Dont have the context of this question. An interview with Steve Baughman. Luke does use monogenes to talk about the death of ones only child, for example, in different parts of his gospel. So it would-. He was a key contributor in the Bills comeback win against the Houston Oilers, in which Buffalo rallied from a 32-point deficit[2] to complete the largest comeback victory in NFL history. The first man Adam is from the earth, earthy. 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