shut off the pilot and reconnect the 3 wire plug and but the cover back on. Draining your tank yearly may have prevented this but who the hell does that. Within a couple minutes it reverted to 1 flash, and is working fine. my water heater pilot light went out. I replaced the Assy Unit thermocouple with the pilot lightNOW it flashes 7 times with 3 second pause. So to all of you, thank you! The comfort range is very small. Tried disconnecting the old board for an hour. I turned the knob to the on position and the burner kicked on. This controller issue is a serious concern for me as I often leave for weeks at a time with the rest of the family to tend to the fort, but they would not know what to do, so I shall have to give specific instructions with pics etc. Land lord got a hot water heater last week because my old one was leaking. Thank goodness I found this site. Its a Reliant water heater, but at Menards. It is also an adjustable regulator that insures proper gas pressure for combustion. The new valve seemed to act the same way except without the main burner lite, out , and relite. Mine quit working last Wednesday (Christmas Eve), with a house full of company. This will supply current to the main valve and the main valve will open. THANK YOU! Thanks all and internet! I have a slight modification to make it even easier!!! The WT8840 water heater control from Resideo is designed for use in standing pilot applications using an immersion well for water temperature sensing. This whole thread is very interesting. Many thousands of these units replaced unneccessarily because of this coding error and the fact so few regularly do the tank flush. I nervously turned the controller dial to the 9 oclock position, the burner burst to life, and today I have hot water again. Honeywell said it is my fault because I failed to drain the sediment. Second water heater weve put into this location in 3 years, due to bad Honeywell controllers. Then This year the pilot went out and I tried to re-light by pressing the red knob pointed at PILOT and pressing the square igniter button. 1. They could not find that in their records. Rheem gets my congrats for the great support and fast shipping. Rotate the knob to 9 oclock to see if it will fire up on its own. US Government safety features. Clearly the valve controller is mis-designed. I was told to flush the water heater 2xs a year with vinegar to remove sediment, which i did have ALOT..Thanks. Honeywell and Sears/Home Depot/etc. I initially did unplug everything and flushed the tank there was some residue and sediment not a ton but apparently enough to confound the sensor. Wish Id read deeper in the thread to try jumping the valve with wire. Even though it did not appear excessively dirty or clogged there was some soot present on top of the screen and a small amount of dust under the burner (& one dead ladybug). Switched back to the old board and still couldnt get it to work. Ill let you know how it worked out. Just for reference THISpicture shows the wire that attaches to the control board. If you are getting 750 millivolts at the RED and WHITE connections, then I would think it is a dud. Its definitely a hassle rigging up the battery setup, but I cannot complain with the results. New valve on the way from Whirlpool. Whirlpool sent me the upgraded replacement. BUT, the adapter for the wire harness only goes into the new board one way. Since my valve is under warranty, I will be replacing it. Instead of a red flashing light it has a White flashing light. Whenthisbabyhits88mphYourgonnaseesomeseriousShit, http://www.midlandhardware.com/157481.html?gclid=CNjXnayo0b0CFROVfgodKgsA3A#.U0QkZfldV8E, https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/14153292543/, https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/13946581980/, https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/14129889951/, https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/13946540277/, http://hometips.me/Mar/How-to-test-and-replace-Honeywell-gas-control-valve.pdf, https://www.flickr.com/photos/86570218@N06/17486404251, Home Tips: How Do I Remove A Stubborn Element From A Water Heater?. He removed the cover but did not remove any wires (he fixed it very quickly). I found the most reliable one is to install the parts without the cover and short the top two pins that go to the pilot light (left) and the main burner (right) and running it for a while. First, the Pilot has to be able to stay lit on its own and a fault blinks on the controller to continue. Connect the RED and WHITE power wires back on the two connections on the circuit board. I closed the cover again and lit the pilot again. He said do not put the setting any higher than the HOT setting. Back in business again. The Temperature probe is a different design. You can only find the entire assembly. Do not loose the spring under it! Piezo Dynamic Series Sirens Data Sheet, Honeywell Home, Resideo Security Americas Folks, here is the problem with this controller design. It is . I had a failing honeywell on my AOS smith water heater this morning. Thank you all for your help. I was successful in clearing the fault code from my Honeywell WV8840B1109 Supply Valve Controller simply by utilizing the single jumper wire method as described in the post from CrankyTenants. I will now start flushing sediment every quarter instead of annually. When I came back to check the water heater, I saw that the light was flashing normally. I put the cover back on and the light flashed 7 times as I put the heat dial to hot. On Thursday plubmer came over to install the worthless Whirlpool 40 gallon piece of junk water heater. Thanks E. Update : Tried all the reset methods and none worked for me for the white light control valve. Removal of the 3 pin wire to the control board and pilot restart did Not work for me with the Honeywell White Light Gas Valve. 1. 5. Gas Valves & Controls. Voltage Minimum: 350 mV dc, open circuit. 20 minutes and the above solution of shorting it to correct the error worked magic. It was enough hot for a fairly comfortable shower actually. Emptied tank and there wasnt much sediment. If it has now cleared. Ive tried everything trying to reset it , although it seems the flame is on . and I am spreading the word, i bought 2 water heaters for 2 rentals from homedepo with the honeywell (status poop valve), i have no idea how one hasnt blown, (1) 1st. At least then Ill have a stockpile when the water heater is out of warranty. Deliberately, maliciously, and probably under the pretense of safety. If this problem happens again I plan on wiring a small push-button to the two top terminals and mount it the plastic cover for an easy reset switch! Hot water is a good thing!! They didnt ask any questions or ask for the old one to be returned. Maybe a result of their desire to protect themselves against scald claims and the programmers misunderstanding of high hot might have to be to deliver hot at a faucet that is 75 feet from the tank and serviced by uninsulated lines? Thanks for the site.. Guys, this is a great post Thanks I FIXED IT but, make it EASY FOR DUMMIES after spending hours reading this I FOUND the EASIEST WAY to fix the 4 blink issue Just lit the pilot take out the plastic cover with the pilot on, do not disconnect any cords, use aflat-bladed screwdriver. just short (touch) the top 2 left pins( there is a set of 4 pins together use the 2 on the left) and the led light will go off and the pilot will shut off too, put the plastic cover back to the unit and DONE!! When utilities came to check gas pressure, my gas was shut off and meter opened for half hour or so. Thx loreleaf for the post and pics. I havent opened the valve yet out of curiosity but from what I read here, the Capacitor sounds like a good culprit. The light and the whole board is powered by a Thermo-electric generator powered by the pilot light. So this is the only site I could find regarding this stupid gas valve!!! So since my controller is under warranty I will get a new one, may pay $10 for shipping or try and find one in town where they charge Honeywell directly, they gave me a special number to give to the store. If that didnt work, or if you already have the new valve and prefer the slightly simpler approach, proceed as follows. My plumber advised he has been seeing A LOT of these units fail. Definitely will be draining sediment as a preventive measure later this week. The unit will go to 7 blinks initially, but the burners will kick on and after a bit will revert to 1 blink every few seconds (normal operation). By the way, while searching for more information when this first came up for me, I found one website which had these controllers for sale for $99.00. Plug the cord back in One big question. like this http://www.midlandhardware.com/157481.html?gclid=CNjXnayo0b0CFROVfgodKgsA3A#.U0QkZfldV8E. My plan was to fix it Saturday and replace the entire unit with the new one. Some designers use whats called a super cap instead of a battery to preserve data for short periods of time. Please do this at your own risk. Still working so far. Thank you Cranky Tenants and Dave Boone! We really need to tell the government to BUTT OUT of our lives, Big Brother wants to be my mommy and save me from myself. Wednesday morning earlylooked on porch for another package I was expecting and found the new control valve. Mounting: Mounting in upright position only. First Responder. Now the replacement goes on the fritz. Speaker wire. It took right off and has been working fine. David Boone I Love You. The two 10 inch jumpers wrapped around the left and right pins was the method that worked for me. My warrantied part is being overnighted. I suggest, like anything else you want to buy online, among those sellers with good reviews, choose the one with the best price. I even suspect there is a simpler method to do it than the one Ill now detail. It will die eventually and it would be nice to have the gas valve ready to go. I pay for labor and after much debate they agreed to pay for parts. Could only see me in the eveningReading about what you guys have done. I tried all the solutions that people had suggested and still had the 4 blink problem. This changes to red flash code when there is an abnormal condition. Took the whole circuit board out and shorted the back of the capistor. I put a speaker wire on the positive then putthe board and on the water heater. I have set a reminder in outlook to drain my tank once a year from now on. Press down on the plastic cover in front of the clips to release them. Lessons learned eh? Thank you for you detailed instructions. Probably not, but it was worth a try. My house is going into escrow and it worked on my red light control board and saved me from buying a new control board or WH! Little white plug stays with wire ribbon. I told them BS, that I was going to install it myself. After re-installing the burner and reattaching all the wires, it started up with the 7 blinks & eventually went to normal 1 blink. Going to try the reset steps pointed out earlier and see if that will get me by for a little while until the new one gets here. Problem solved. https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/13946581980/ The two wires (red/white) pluged to the honeywell box front rightside, power the box, make sure the wires are not loose, refer to diagram, mine were loose had to reattach with tiny plyers. This unit is a P.O.S.! I had to do it 2 times, but it is now making hot water again. Didnt work first time but tried it again and let board set for 10 minutes unplugged before relighting pilot. The led light will go off and the pilot will shut off as well. The most I have had to do this is twice before the fault cleared. They are the 3 thin metal posts that stick out beyond everything else in an upside down triangular V pattern. WT8840 controls provide direct replacement, Pressure Regulator: The outlet pressure regulator, See appliance rating plate for inlet pressure range, 0.5 PSI (14.0 in. BTW I wouldnt try to short everything in sight to GND, because the board and components are conformally coated to seal out moisture, so you dont want to damage the coating. I dont buy enough plumbing parts to make a vendor recommendation, thank god. Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Honeywell RTH6580WF Wi-Fi 7 Resetting #$%@!! heres what i did take off the cover on the valve and disconnect the 3 wire connector. Why doesnt Lowes carry repair parts for the water heaters they sell? 2. (With the three wire plug OFF and the pilot on I was getting a 7 code only.) This is an excellent solution. Executive summary: Once it has detected a water too hot event, the gas valve will never work again unless you know how to reset it. Thank you! Add Sears to Lowes of where not to buy a product. 3: Snap the cover back onto the heater (so you can light the pilot-light). Mine is 3 1/2 years old. WT8840 TRADE WATER HEATER CONTROLS 34-00013EF01 2 PLANNING THE INSTALLATION WARNING Fire or Explosion Hazard. Another comment when I finally got a replacement from Amazon, the LED light was White in color, not RED as my last two. F-ING A BRA! I have not had hot water since Thursday night. Maybe the situation was wrong, maybe I just didnt hold my tongue the right way. Last one. This is what he had me do: I have another place with a Rheem Propane Tankless where the lowest normal setting is 100F. That sounds reasonable. The note is just a comment I know it really does not apply to your situation. This piece of junk is only 13 months old. The first time they sent us a new valve for free and my husband installed it. My storyAfter two years my Honeywell WV8860B1310 gas control valve failed. Just one stinking notch! 6: Remove the cover and re-install the 3-wire plug (it will only fitone way). ; 4. when I drained it I observed no sediment ! Wish Id had it before I Paid the 30.00 shipping for the new board. I had to be transferred to water heater division and wait on hold a while but it was well worth it.). Checked the wiring. Awesome articles you post on your blog, i have shared this article on my facebook. I guess Water heaters are now interactive devices requiring yearly maintenance. It has a stainless steel protective cover. Basically, the minerals heat less efficiently than the water, so the water has to get hotter than necessary. Thanks to all the posts here!!! Its two pins go through the board. I cant believe this actually worked!!! New controller on the way but hot water is now flowing. If the heating chamber gets too hot, the button pops out and the pilot will never light until you push it back in. It may take a minute or so before the heating element comes on; be patient. If you cant get the pilot lit, the thermopile that generates the .75 volt power to the controller will not be generating any power either. Next day shipping for 10 bucks? Pre-owned. I hope it helps someone. Free! It is sad to see big companies are not really care about the quality and safety of the consumers. This isnt connected to house current, so dont worry about touching any wires; you wont get a shock. save delay . Twist the phone wires together, the burner lit for about 20 seconds then shut off. will light up but is not, Honeywell 24v waterheater. It saved me $150. The water heater turns on and hubby and I live happily ever after. Franken valve worked! Now, I urge CAUTION when performing this fix as, without a working pilot, you could accumulate an appreciable amount of gas and risk an explosion. You can save delay and $hundreds in plumber fees by fixing the part thats gone on strike. I dont think it is cost effective. Cheers. She then told me that she would have to transfer me to someone else to finish up because my unit has the power exhaust flap and that was a different group. I cleaned burner and vents as well. I read the included instructions to a T and had a successful replacement! Ernie. I.E. About to enter the fray and attempt the 4-blink DIY fix solution. If that is true then there could be a case where the manufacturer has just been a little too cute in their programming. In fact, not only have they not fixed the problem, some instructions I found online lead me to believe that they deliberately introduced this feature after the original design. Tug gently, away from the board, to unplug the plug. The Whirlpool helpline says I have to replace the gas valve. Super easy. WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 WT8840B1500 WV8840B1059 WV8840B1117 WV8840B1118. Instead, the tank becomes unusable. Worked for me waiting to see if burner shuts off I then end up on the Low setting. Reviews are especially welcome. 3. It will not attempt to clear its own fault after it faults. WV4262E1107 it has a much larger board and connects a bit different. Found three capacitors (bigger one in the middle and the other two towards one of the corners, each is mainly silver with a black small/minor segment ) and shorted all three, replaced unit and relit the pilot light, but 4 flashes still the problem. Opens in a new window or tab. Water heater runs both water AND heating in the home 0 degrees in Denver right now! I do believe I will call for my warranty replacement anyway as it is likely needed. doctor dead, steampunk adventure set 1904 san francisco, . I thought you might want to add this info to your do-it-yourself site. Most Honeywell water heaters with electric gas valves need just 12 volts for the valve to work. TH106 Honeywell Aube TH106 7 Day Programmable Line Amazon. An extremely tense situation with 2 women in the house, Monday morning (Wife and daughter) and no hot water was avoided by the above fix. If I had found this earlier I would have saved the next day shipping and done the $10 one. At this point the flashing light went to the Heartbeat flash (call for heat), the exhaust flap opened and the ignitor lit the burner. Hi I have a Honeywell gas valve and the pilot button popped off. I tried this simple solution you provided and it worked awesome. Im an Innkeeper with few local options for help or assistance and will be following some great advice here. upstairs. Wow, amazing! All models of WT8840 include an integrated NTC temperature sensor. After the pilot heats the thermopile, and the LED blinks, I released the Red knob but the pilot would not stay on. I reset it and it worked again for a few days. Came back and it fired right up. Well, I am having issues again and think I may have just screwed myself. I really dont need those (collective) idiots telling me what is safe and what is not. I took the circuit board completely out of the unit and let it sit for about an hour. followed your instructions for shorting the 2 pins and re-light worked just like you said. My background issue: The heater would simply stop working every once in a while, with no lights flashing whatsoever. Pull the three wire connector off the circuit board by pulling it straight out. I was ready to take the circuit board into work and try to reprogram it through what appears to be a serial port (TX RX pins). I did the upper left/upper right. and now I got myself a huge repair issue, what the hell is wrong with kenmore and Honeywell to make a dial that allows you to raise the temp up to A,B,C AND VERY HOT and just by putting it up to A now I get 4 blinking lights and have to pay a repair technician to come give me a diagnostic!
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